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see you then. >> from comedy central's world news headquarters in new york, this is "the daily show" with jon stewart. ["daily show" theme song playing] [cheers and applause] [cheers and applause] >> jon: welcome to "the daily show." my name jon stewart. we have a good one tonight. my guest tonight anjan sundaram. anjan sundaram he has written a book about his time in the congo. let's begin tonight overseas in a land so central to world function that the most major economic and geopolitical decisions must be made there. i'm talking, of course, about
switzerland. [ laughter ] yes. yes those chocolate making clock suckers have made themselves the destination for the world's most powerful individuals. impressive with their resourcefulness and let's call their a-moral -- amoral attitude towards nazi gold neutrality. who is in switzerland? >> the rich and powerful are at the world economic forum now. >> jon: rich and powerful. i wonder where the rich and powerless gather? what else? >> war of words in geneva. >> jon: now we're going somewhere. >> fireworks fly at the start of peace conference. >> fighting words.
>> temperatures are flaying. >> jon: a word war. that's the worst kind of war. [laughter] you know my grandpa served three tours in world war ii. [ laughter ] -- wordwar ii. [ laughter ] i remember he came home. somebody called him a (bleep) and -- [laughter] -- he got that far away look if his eyes like he was thinking about grammar. [ laughter ] but apparently not only are the rich and powerful gathering in davos but diplomats siem continuously gathering in montreux switzerland and they are the ones engaging in a wordwar. the situation is deteriorating so much that even the delegates handshake have to pass through an ind immediateary.
[ laughter ] to the word war. >> you live until new york, i live in syria. i have the right to give the syrian version here in this forum. >> yes, of course. >> this is my right as a syrian. >> we have to have some constructive and harmonious dialog. >> you spoke 25 minutes. >> you said inflammatory of [speaking at once] [laughter] >> jon: that's your word war? a little exchange would qualify as the nicest theater i've ever been to. i've seen games of scramble that have gotten -- scrabble that have gotten worse than that. sinbad is a perfect proper noun (bleep). what is the problem here?
>> as of a few days ago he's running for reelection. [laughter] >> jon: oh, no, reelection, well i hope in gassing his own people doesn't hurt him in the primaries. [laughter] nothing is getting done in montreux. hopefully they have more success in daf yos. >> we're until davos to break down all of this. what are people saying. >> here at davos the view is they need to deal with inequality. it's the number one issue people are talks about the salons, in the bars in the restaurants. >> jon: yes, inequality. they are talking about the cigar lounges and the champagne pavilions in the cocaine-atoriums. they are talking about it inside the same shared escorts. [ laughter ] the priority is helping the less
fortunate. all right so a group of world's wealthiest people get together in a is a clued mountain enclaif to discuss concerns over income inequality. >> we've been having aan argument. she believes it's hypocrisy daf dwroas. they come here and tuck about the havenots but it's the haves that have their noses in the trough. i don't degree awith that. >> i don't agree with it. i believe the real hypocrisy are the poor people who say they care so much about incoming equality but couldn't be bothered to come to davos. [ laughter ] shows lack of commitment. [ laughter ] but at least they are talking about the issue. how bad is the income inequality issue now anyway? >> the poorer half of world's people have about the same amount of money as the richest 85 people on earth.
>> jon: jesus christ would not be very happy about that statistic. 85 people have the same amount of wealth as the population of china, india and all of after cand australia. 85 people. there's more people in arcade fire than that. [ laughter ] i'll tell what you, here is the good news. this thing this little enclave is meeting. it's not happening in secret. these people are being watched. i bet there's financial journalists all over this conference to connell for the the aflected through i'm assuming hard it hadding take no prisoners journalismth we're talking about billionaires. the world economic for jum a magnet for them. >> eating the cheesy swiss fondue. >> the propie ter of the hotel gave us a private ride because we couldn't get a taxi.
think it's vip. >> we were able to get this all access badge. fox business rocks. [ laughter ] >> jon: what is with the giddiness. are you financial journalists or just excited to be invited to the money oscars? i loved you in the real life events they later based the wolf of wall street on. keep up the good works. for more on the montreux we go to jason jones. >> jon, i can't believe i'm stully here. i have scored an all access pass to some of the more horrific chronicling of miewn yam ms. -- human misery we've seen in decades. yeah, "the daily show" rocks. >> jon: glad you are there. >> at the montreux palace hotel
it's about rubbing soldiers with the -- shoulders with the movers and shakers of dploam six check out my instagram feed. yeah, that's me with syrian foreign minister walid muallem. that guy is say madman. no, seriously a madman. >> jon: you made it sound like the summit in montreux is as frivolous as the one in davos. >> let me stop through, jon. >> jon: samantha bee is that you? >> yes, jon i'm here in davos, okay. [cheers and applause] i can assure you there's nothing frivolous going on here. the leader it's world economic forum are laser focused on making this a fairer and more equal planet. >> jon: really? because it looks like you are at a party. a party at gatsby's house. >> io no what you are talking about but i hope you are not
[cheers and applause] >> jon: let me ask you a question: if you have a going al letter for google -- alert for google you may have read that going is in a little bit of hot water these days. >> going is under fire in san francisco. >> going is one of the companies that run a fleet of private buses carrying workers every morning to silicon valley 40 miles away. >> a google commuter bus was blocked for a half hour. protesters chanted as they
surrounded the bus and held up sign. google exums read one notice. >> jon: take that you, you carpooling scum. how dare you enjoy the luxury of a bus? [laughter] this really isn't about the buses, is it? >> this seems to be about more than shuttle buses. >> of course, it is. of course it is. >> the private buses have become symbols of income inequality and the belief that well paid tech workers are to blame for steeply rising rents. >> jon: as vladmir lenin always said workers of the world unit and surround the other workers bus. i think the anger is misplaced here. you are like the guy screaming at the car rental agent because you don't think you should have to pay for a (bleep) full tank of gas before you go out like
angie made the gas policy. it's not angry, it was troy. [ laughter ] -- it's not angie, it was troy. i think it's a ruse by google so people don't focus on what they are doing. >> the app called sex with google glass allows couples to watch and record sexual acts and switch video feeds so their partner can watch from their point of view. [audience reacts] >> jon: finally google glass has made it possible to see what it looks like to go (bleep) yourself. [ laughter ] [cheers and applause] i really -- who honestly wants to have sex from their partner's point of view? the one thing that could drive me away from sex permanently is the knowledge of how i look what i'm doing it. [ laughter ]
i'm pretty sure i have a good idea what my o face looks like. two words constipated baby. [ laughter ] [cheers and applause] anyway -- [cheers and applause] anyway, enjoy your sleep. [ laughter ] google glasses, it's creepy. unless you can make some money off it. >> i don't think it's a good thing to put that on a little device on your eye piece. >> it's a reminder of bit by bit of google just sort of immerses itself in our world, you know? >> i think it's a genius move. we own the stock here. i think the google glass is one thing that is going to take the stock even higher. >> jon: what? you know, cavuto it's a disgusting orwellian intrusion into the most intimate moment people can share. i categorize it as a buy. it's a super icky nightmare
machine that gives you a close-up of your own o face but at least it's user friendly. >> they have to say okay, glass it's time and the app starts recording. and then you have to okay, glass, pull out to stop. [ laughter ] [cheers and applause] >> jon: that is not what you say after sex. everyone knows when you are filming the sex act when it's over you yell check the gate. it's a wrap for my penis on this ect.
it's new book is called "stringer: reporter's journey in the congo." please welcome to the program anjan sundaram. [cheers and applause] first of all congratulations -- it's a beautifully well written narrative about your time in the congo as a young man. but it -- you were 22 years old and you were graduating from college. >> uh-huh. >> jon: where were you in school? >> i went to yale. >> jon: so a safety scoosm and you had a degree in what? >> mathematics. >> jon: so you had a job offer at what was the name of company? >> goldman sachs. >> jon: you went to yale hillary rodham clinton a degree in math mat micks why and had a job offer add goldman sachs and you called your mother and said, you know what? i think i'm going to move to the congo. >> and she cried. >> jon: she cried.
she wept with happiness. >> with happiness. >> jon: did you have a job lined up in the congo? >> no, i bought a one-way ticket and showed up there. no one paid for me. i just showed up. >> jon: let me ask you this -- let me see if i can frame this correctly: why? >> if you want to know, the real reason i had read that three million people, now it's five million people had died. no one was reporting about it. >> jon: you were 22. >> yes. >> jon: and you had the presence of mind, the perception and empathy to think this is where i need to go to bring this situation to light. it's remarkable. [ applause ] >> i felt the instinct -- [cheers and applause] >> jon: it's wonderful. so you get there and you call -- you want to become a stringer i guess they call them. somebody freelancing. >> i doesn't want to -- didn't
want to become a stringer. i wanted a job. i wanted to be paid to report on what was happening. i got a job as a stringer where i was paid for 15 cents that they published. not every word that i wrote. no support, no expenses paid nothing at all in ways of insurance. >> jon: would you write things like "it is very, very, very, very, very hot here." >> i would try to write long stories. >> jon: the congo is to me one of most interesting and tragic countries in africa because of its vast mineral wealth. it's an incredibly resource-filled land that somehow the population cannot reap the benefits of this mineral wealth. >> in the middle of the book i describe this journey i make up the river to an indian businessman's mind. and it was stunning to see to what extent the congolese
government was not able to control or did not have authority over the area. even more surprisingly what you found was not people who had been abandoned. i found a pigmy tribe that had given away forest for bags of salt toll international logging companies. i saw mass graves left by foreign armies. people asked me not for food or money but metal detectors. there's an incredible -- a sense that even in that country congo you have global forces at play and peoples' lives are caught up in this and you don't feel like you are in some remote abandoned forgotten place. >> jon: but it is forgotten because it's the type of colonialism and exploitation that you feel like these powers should not be able to get away with anymore. it's old school exploitation, in a way. >> indeed. and the difference now is that
there are african players involved. there are other african countries who have stepped in where once it was the west. it was the colonial powers that used to exploit congo. now that no longer is kosher so now you have to -- you work through african countries. that is much harder to broach and to criticize because it's internal politics and they have their own histories of plans and internal wars that go back centuries. and they are still sorting all of that out. >> jon: the chinese as well are enormous players. >> you cannot talk about intervention now without talking about indians that work at a level of society and the chinese who work through government and come in with these enormous projects, huge roads, massive buildings and the congolese for them it's a shock. they are used to no government. they are used to working, working, working and their ideas never amount to anything, never
add up because there's no institutions or organizations to take their ideas to the next level. >> jon: why can't their government gain a more centralized control over the infrastructure there. there are very smart people who are there in government. there are very well educated. they know very well the problems of the area. why can't they turn that around? >> it's a problem of leadership. it will take some. congo's independent hero is patrice luomunga, a freedom fighter in the 1960's. he is assassinated with western assistance. >> jon: what? that is crazy, western assistance. [laughter] >> since then they struggled to find new leader. and vision means a leader who will build institutions instead of destroying them, a leader who realizes that building
institutions will be better not only for themselves but for their children. instead you have people who succumbed because congo is so incredibly wealthy they succumbed to the temptation of cutting deals with the libyan forces. >> jon: it's incredible reporting. what is your next book going to be? >> about rwanda, about journalists i taught in rwanda. >> jon: in between those two did you spend a few day as the disney land? you could use a little decompression. it's a remarkable look at the daily lives of people in c
[cheers and applause] >> jon: all right. that's our show. wow. that was an impressive young man and a fine book. join us next week at 11:00. [ laughter ] i don't know why i repeat that. you probably knew that already. here it is your moment of zen. >> this is what they do every single time, anderson. there's a huge snowstorm. they end up having a snowball fight. hundreds of students outs here. [ laughter ]